ICBE


The ICBE vs. Hate Mail

Well, it seems that everyone today with a web page has some sort of "readers' comments" page going, mostly with all of the good mail that has come in. In the interest of being different, I have decided to display all of the honest to goodness "Hate Mail" that I have received, which on top of being a little bit more fun to read (IMHO), there is also less of it (really!) so it is easier to put all on a web page.

By the way, I don't think all the email addresses given are real:-)

New Mail as of November 6th, 2006!

Scroll to the bottom for newest mail.

Update (1/15/2008): We used to get a lot of hate mail, but we don't anymore, and honestly I kind of miss it. I don't for a second believe that this page has been any kind of deterrent, and it certainly was never intended as such. Maybe people have just loosened up a bit? Or maybe people have just become desensitized to what they see on the internets. Either way, it's the end of an era for us here at the ICBE.


Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 06:02:34 0600
From: Nashville Internet Marketing (robbins@telalink.net)
Subject: (no subject)

DO you have a small penis?!?!?!?!?!


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:41:42 -0500
From: HamillC@aol.com
Subject: Mike

You Are One Sad Bastard

Get A Life Wanker


Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:36:45 -0700
From: Bob (bob@bob.com)
Subject: Man,

Do you ever need alife!!! Get rid of those godamned frames unless you
know how to use them. I guess I apprecaite the fact that you seem to
have spent so much goddamned time on your animated images, yee haa,
they're impressive, but you really oughta consider getting a life. ANd
soon. Jeez, *loser*!!!!


Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 12:15:38 -0700
From: Kirjasto (kirjasto@gsf.fi)
Subject: Hello!

This is most unnecessery and stupidest page in internet. Why on earth did
You start to write this? First I thought this page would be fun but this
is really boring. I would advice You to destroy this page and write
something more constructive. Thank You!

kirsi.eitakari@gsf.fi

(22-year-old girl from Finland)


Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:36:54 -0600
From: Mark Taylor (mtaylor@swetland.com)
Subject: stupid

what a stupid web site!!!!

I came here only to hopefully find something on toilet training for
children! This is as stupid as you are! GET A LIFE!!!!


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:12:19 -0000
From: NikNak (pkenny@iol.ie)
Subject: wanker

Why???
your a wanker


Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:36:27 -0800
From: guest (guest@itchen.hants.gov.uk)
Subject: (no subject)

You are a twisted human being who should be sectioned without delay - is
it really normal to create such drivel on the net from a poor sad lonely
grandad in putney


Date: 3/15/1997 1:32
From: JONWATRS@concentric.net
Subject: No Subject


GROW SOME HAIR ON YOUR BALLS!!!!
YOU'RE A PUSSY!!
WHEN IN DOUBT WHIP IT OUT AND DRAIN YOUR LITTLE VEIN!!!


Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 18:36:06 -0400
From: TONY (TWRICHA@IBM.NET)
Subject: WANKER

AS I READ THESE PAGES I WONDER IF WE ALL ARE FROM THE PLANET EARTH
ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT SIT AT THIER COMPUTER WANKING FOR
IDEAS.


Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:16:21 -0500
From: Ryan Amy (ryanaa@minot.com)
Subject: shity page

this page is one of the sorriesst fucking pages i have ever ben to
i bet u where a C.O.D. (clip on dick)


Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:43:37 +0000
From: Huntington (hunting@sundial.kc3ltd.co.uk)
Reply-To: huntington@kc3ltd.co.uk
Subject: your web page

Do you have a major mental problem. What is this obsession with bloody
urinals. You really are mentally screwed up aren't you.


Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:01:47 -0400
From: Paul Wanberg (pwanberg@ma.ultranet.com)
Subject: truly truly B-O-R-I-N-G

stupid idiotic site of thou humble Earth!Your site is truly truly
B-O-R-I-N-G!!!


---------------------------
Paul Wanberg
pwanberg@ma.ultranet.com
Franklin, Massachusetts USA


Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 03:37:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Leslie320i@aol.com
Subject: maybe you bite me...

WHY?!?! Is THIS fun for you? Someone has an anal fixation. Get your head
out of your ass. I can't even INSULT you, you are such a genuine waste of human flesh.


Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:49:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: ZETAchik16@aol.com
Subject: hi...

sorry man, but ur page sux: is there any point at all to it?? it completely sux!! it is so gross!! get a damn life...u probably need the damn toilette etiquette or however u spell the damn word!!!


Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:54:54 -0400
From: Debbie Favretto (712199@ican.net)
Subject: Jully

your mind@gutters.com


Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:08:43 -0400
From: Mark (mpratt@domce.com)
Subject: Duh!

News flash! Only women care about this crap! A normal guy doesn't care
if he's pissing in a urinal or on a bush outside. Get a life.


Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:13:48 -0600
From: DAN STITZ (dcjc@ldd.net)
Subject: urinal freak

You have WAAAAAAY too much time on your hands!!
Suggestion: find a hobby ( or a girlfriend)

I, on the other hand, am the BOMB!!!!


Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:56:48 EST
From: Mond777 (Mond777@aol.com)
Subject: Your urinal page

You know, I read the hate mail first, and I thought, "Wow... these people
are wacko" But then I read your page, and realized, no, they were right.


Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:00:48 EST
From: EdLoveLive (EdLoveLive@aol.com)
Subject: hi

Wow you're really far out and stupid. What kind of person takes up space on
the internet with pages like that. I mean thats really sorry


Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:51:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Sheard (cs95ah@badger.ac.BrockU.CA)
Subject: tip

Hey Mike I've got some etiquette for you; GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!
p.s: eat it!!


Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:20:05 -0800
From: Les Weinberger (janicewein@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: You're Sick!

By the way, do you know why your name is written on your belt? Think about it!

Sue


Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:40:14 -0600
From: rick ("youll never know"@you.suck.com)
Subject: you idiot!!!

hey you suck! you really suck!
i cant believe the monotonous, boring, braindead activity you have
decided to occupy your time with..

talk about wasting away, i can picture you just rotting away, you god
damn wanker!!

I Hate You


Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:19:53 EST
From: Mateo84@aol.com
Subject: page

nice page sicko


Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:48:51 -0500
From: peter (pdim@julian.uwo.ca)
Subject: SIGH

A MAN.......
WORDS CAN NOT EXPLAIN WHAT I HAVE JUST SEEN
BUT I SUPPOSE THAT S THE WHOLE POINT
YES U REALLY KNOW HOW TO WASTE ALOT OF YOUR TIME
BUT, IN YOUR DEFENCE
I GUESS YOU CAN SAY THAT I WASTED THE LAST TEN MINUTES OF MY LIFE
LOOKING AT THAT CRAP


Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:54:22 -0600
From: NAGLE (NAGLE@prodigy.net)
Subject: This page is queer

man, I dont know what youve been smoking, but youre pretty dumb of an ass to put a pee~page site up. You are a penis petting serious sack sucking shithead from crackville. Why use a urinal when I can piss all over your ass? I bet you invented soap on a rope.....get a dick from Walley-world.

and a reply...

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:30:26 -0600
From: NAGLE (NAGLE@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: This page is queer

You need to get off your crack whore mom and stop smoking crack, and LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING....your page is amazingly queer...and I live in illinois, but I got the distance to piss on you wherever you are. Well, since you mentioned your eigth grade teacher, ill pee on both of you. Hows that sound???? You need to get a real page and get a real women, and get a REAL penis!!!
~Psyche

and another...

Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:33:18 -0500
From: NAGLE (NAGLE@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: This page is queer

Listen up, I took that crap for four years, and I got nothing out of it, not one thing! Who the hell cares if I can stand on on knee while licking my ballsack and singing the national anthem to Budapest. I sure dont. I could care less if you are concerned about me, cause crack smokers are only concerned when they want money for crack, and im not giving you any. Now listen here...I dont have any anger built up inside me, you need to lay off of your mother and get a whore. You need to settle the shit in your pants and put it on your little "HOW TO PISS" page. Hell, I can sum up your page in a minute...
How To Piss
by a Crackhead....

whip it out
push hard
dont miss the bowl

now that didnt take long did it? you piece of toilet water. Im gonna find your mother and piss on your poodle.
---Psyche


Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:45:18 -0400
From: jmellottt (jmellott@bright.net)
Subject: You suck your mom

UHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUIT smacking around with your cock and balls.


Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:04:57 -0500
From: undertow (undertow@shaw.wave.ca)
Subject: sick fuck

what kind of sick fuck are you? what, do you get off on urinals?


Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 23:52:07 +0800
From: Paul Herold (paulandedd@yahoo.com)
Subject: You need a life
Parts/attachments:

Go and see a shrink mate!

Special Note: This guy was kind enough to forward me no fewer than three copies of his email. I thought that was pretty nice...


Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:36:25 -0500
From: Greg Easley (geasle01@mail.coin.missouri.edu)
Subject: You are limp

Hey Dumb-Shit:

You seem to be obsessed with preventing other males from measuring you up.
What's the matter? Little bitty dick? You should stick to the stall if it bothers
you that much. You should see a surgeon and have that midget converted into
a clit. Then you won't have to fret over which urinal to use.
Mr. Bushhog


Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:42:34 -0500
From: Roger Heinen (heinenr@execpc.com)
Subject: YOU BASTARD

YOU CONCIEDED,PERVERTED,PILE OF PURTRID ,PISS LOVING, EXCRAMENT!
YOUR SITE IS A GHASTLY ABOMINATION THAT SHALL BE FORSAKEN!
I CANNOT BELIVE YOU STOOP SO LOW AS TO TALK ABOUT URINAL EDIQUITTE?
(ALTHOUGH, I AGREE ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT COMMENSING IN CONVERSATION
DURING TIMES OF URINATION) HOW DARE YOU DEGRADE ME IN SUCH A MANNOR THAT
I SHALL NEVER PISS AGAIN, (EXEPT ON PEOPLES CLOTHES) FOR I AM NOW AFRIAD
SOMEONE MIGHT WATCH ME SPRAY MY LOVE JUICE IN A PUBLIC FACILITY! YOU
ARE DAMNED TO A TERRIBLE IRONIC FATE OF URININATING AT EXESSIVE AMOUTS
UNTIL YOU DIE OF DEHYDRATION!!!!!!!!BE GONE WITH YOU AND YOU OBESE,
PROFOUND, OFFENSIVE SITE!

FROM A MAN KNOWN AS ANDY OFFENSIVE

Special Note: This guy must have sent the first message before he was done.

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:54:57 -0500
From: Roger Heinen (heinenr@execpc.com)
Subject: EAT MY PISS AND DIE

EAT MY PISS AND SHIT YOU DIRTY BITCH! ILL PISS IN YOUR EYES, ASSHOLE!
HOWS THAT FOR ETIQUITTE?


From: "Adam Joncas" (ajoncas@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca)
Subject: Waste of my precious time...
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:58:44 -0500

To Pisser Guy, You just wasted ten minutes of my life of which I will never get back. I hope that you are ashamed of your lonely, pathetic, urine-soaked existence.
Adam Joncas
University of Waterloo


Special Note: I think this next guy has a really small hard drive. And he's a little bit too quick on the "Send" button.

First...

From: ANHSAPMPT@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:37:36 EST
Subject: YOUR SITE REALLY SUX

This site lacks substance, like you! On top of that, YOU MADE ME WASTE VALUABLE CACHE SPACE! I want my 60kb and 10 minutes back!!!! You are a ginuwine @$$HOLE.

And a second...

From: ANHSAPMPT@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:58:09 EST
Subject: A ginuwinely crappy site, indeed

OK, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR. you wasted my time and cache space, and I DON'T THINK A GUY WITH A PISS FETISH LIKE YOU DOESN'T DESERVE A SITE!!! YOU MADE ME USE UP MY CACHE, MAN!!!!! GIMME BACK MY 100 KB, @$$HOLE!!!!
Ah, that feels better now.

And a third...

From: ANHSAPMPT@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:52:31 EST
Subject: ginuwinely crappy site

If you are a teen, then I sadly wonder what you will be doing when you turn 20. OK, u have the most f*cked up brain in the universe! GET IT TOGETHER! THIS IS WORSE THAN PERVETED, MAN! A GUY WITH A PISS FETISH DOESNT DESERVE HIS OWN WEB SITE!!!!! THIS DOESN'T ONLY AFFECT ME, YOU MADE ME WASTE VALUABLE CACHE SPACE!!!!!!!! GIMME MY 100 KB BACK, @$$HOLE!


Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:08:47 -0700
From: Tate Flanagin (tflanagi@bellsouth.net)
Subject: fuck you!

fuck you!


Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:30:36 -0400
From: Bud & Cheryl (bc@dsinw.com)
Reply-To: bc@dsinw.com
Subject: (no subject)

Get a life you pathetic freak! Sorry About your life it must really suck! Well At least you did something. That must be harsh to NEVER get laid! Here masterbate to this!!!!!

Note: They were kind enough to include a picture of an "attractive" nude woman.


Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: VOL-8-CRUSH@webtv.net
Subject: Stupid Ass Site

I said it once.and i'l say it again,Were you mentaly fucked in the ass by aliens,Did you as a small child piss in the urinal then think you can stick your dick down the drain, flush the urianal thinking the overwash water was gonna get you off,I bet now that your older,you go in the backyard cut some tree's down,and fuck the stumps,you are a brain dead child aren't you?

Note: My first email from a WebTV user! Go figure...


Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:47:50 GMT
From: Anne Nonnimus (cosifantuti@hotmail.com)
Subject: Fraudian Nightmares

Mike, There must be something about the name Mike, I've never known one yet that didn't waffle on for hours on subjects that no other living being has the slightest interest in,and sadly you all become so learned about your pet subject.However,you really have taken the crown and become Prince of Drones by dedicating a website (icbe) to your particular specialist subject. I'm going to pass you web site address on to all the sad boring people I know, it might give them hope in the realisation that they have not yet stooped to the depths you have. Cosi Fan Tuti.


Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:02:01 EDT
From: Velvetchair1@aol.com
Subject: sorry mike..

nice intentions..but..your site was kinda retarded. Whatever happened to...look straight at the wall in front of you, keep your shot straight in the toilet, PUT THE TOILET SEAT BACK DOWN, and don't forget to wash your hands. OH..remember to ZIP those pants back up! I think that's all men need to know. Keep it short and simple, you may get a better response.

Special Note: If you're reading this, please be aware that I am holding my breath, waiting anxiously for a better response than this.


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:41:40 EDT
From: Poppaboner1313@aol.com
Subject: GOLDEN SHOWER

HEY FAGGER IF IT'S A GOLDEN SHOWER YOUR AFTER BRING YOUR MOMMA AND YOUR POODLE OVER I'LL SPANK THEIR ASSES WHILE I PISS IN YOUR FACE.... HAVE A NICE DAY AND REMEMBER THE URINALS ARE FOR PISSING AND THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS ARE FOR DRINKING... FAGGER
SINCERELY
BOB VILA
PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL TOILET SAFETY COMMITTEE

Special Note: Who knew! Bob Vila is one of my fans! Norm Abram, where are you?


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:05:11 +0100
From: Andy Wright (andywright@livingstoncc.fsnet.co.uk)
Subject: Yawn...and I thought this would be funny

'Nuff said.

Special Note: And I thought this email would be interesting...


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:12:16 EDT
From: Beast642@aol.com
Subject: Urinal Etiquette Site

This is a real pisser of a site! It's an example of people with way too much time on their hands.
I gotta go take a leak right now, since it's on my mind. After I am done peeing all over the wall and floor(all the while screaming like a banshee), I will flush your website. Then I will start using the woods like the other animals so I don't have to read this crap!

Note: Am I the only one who feels sorry for all the animals in the woods?


Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:19:15 -0400
From: David Coy (decoy@letts.com)
Subject: This Site Is Pathetic

You are one patheic fucking loser. Pissing is not rocket science. If there is a urinal open, piss into it. If there is no urinal open , but a stall is available, go into the friggin stall and piss standing up (like a man, not some pussy!).
Don't stand around pulling your pubes just because you can't be near another person when you piss. Jesus H. Christ!!! Plain and simple, if you have to piss then do it.


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:04:14 -0400
From: eser (eser@mediaone.net)
Subject: you fucking moron

First I would like to state that you are a fucking moron!!!! Go to some porn sights and wax your dolphin if you have so much free time(which you obviously do)!!! And if I should happen on a bathroom with several urinals I will stand back and piss one everyone. That's my etiquette!!!!! Last I would like to tell you to go fuck yourself one more time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:28:13 -0400
From: Zofia Musial (pmusial@ionsys.com)
Subject: your urinal page

I don't agree with your etiquette in the least. I think it is puerile and ridiculous. Why do you think architects make adjacent urinals if people are simply supposed to avoid using them? And just what exactly am I supposed to avoid seeing on the guy beside me? What do you do in the change room when you go swimming and everyone is nude? Do you cover yourself up then too? Do you change in the bathroom stalls? Open your eyes, there are millions of people on this Earth who disagree with you. That's why we build adjacent urinals and have change rooms in pools and gym shower rooms--because we've come to accept that we're human beings and we have bodies. And if you go to Europe don't dare tell anyone that you have this... problem, because you will really be in for it there. I found this site listed as one of those joke sites that are worth a laugh, and I read the hate mail first. Usually hate mail is written by presumptuous and vulgar people who jump to some sort of conclusion and express their insecurity using profane language, but in your case a lot of your mailers have a point.


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:26:39 EDT
From: Pimpfoho69@aol.com
Subject: Business Proposition

Since you are of the little dick genre, perhaps I can use you in my organization! After you are done licking my balls and draining my massive cock of its manly juices you acn be a male hooker for me down on Main Street. Since ya got no balls yourself you should fit right in.

Note: Upon inquiring as to my wages in this position, I got the following response:

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:45:04 EDT
From: Pimpfoho69@aol.com
Subject: Re: Business Proposition

I will have you surgically fixed to normal length after 12 months of service. Will give you a 13-incher after 5 years.


Note: It seems that I have been the target of both happiness and hatred from a Yahoo Club. Check it out here. From as best as I can gather it appears to be a urinal and peeing fetish club (someone correct me if I am wrong), so don't go there if that kind of thing bothers you. I've attached two messages about me from a thread in their club, which were subsequently brought to my attention my one of their members. (nibegarots)

The first guy seemed to like it!

From: arcophile
Just posted this link,

http://www.icbe.org/

It is pure unadulterated urinal fun. Seems to be poking fun at urinal-induced homophomobia, but it is _so_ well done, it is hard to tell! It might be really homophobic! Either way, this site is definitely worth a look!

But not this guy! Wow!

From: rfohighside
Well, the "fake urinals" are a five-star winner, but this "joke site" isn't, IMHO. Actually I had seen it before, and I deliberatedly omitted it from the list of "humorous urinal links" I circulated around, simply because it DOES seem to me to perpetuate, in an offensive way, the growing social paranoia and uptightness that's come to be associated with guys peeing together socially -- which used to be the most normal and natural thing in the world. My suggestion is that all of our members go to the site, and e-mail the author, Mike Sykes (his link is there), letting him know that lots of guys consider peeing socially (and sociably) to be a very enjoyable male custom/occasion/recreation/sport (depending on the circumstances); and that we wish he'd grow up, get over it, and stop fostering such bullshit paranoia against guys just being guys together in a very traditional and time-honored way. If he gets bombed with e-mail protests, maybe he'll "get it" about the homophobic damage that sites like this can inflict, especially on younger guys, whose social attitudes are definitely influenced by negativity like this.
A sign of "what we've come to": I was in a great old restored movie/art theater some time ago, which has three turn-of-the-century full-sized urinals (without dividers) in the men's room. Beautiful artifacts! A man came in with a ten or eleven year old boy - whose dad or guardian I presume he was. The boy looked bewildered. His dad said, "OK...you can go pee right there!" The boy said: "You mean everybody just pees right out in the open like that...where everybody can see them?" Clearly, this boy had never even SEEN full-wall urinals before...and he was shocked and taken aback by the sight. I would guess that his school probably has small individual micro-sized jobs -- with individual privacy barriers prohibiting growing schoolboys from ever seeing another boy take a pee. What sort of emotionally healthy and relaxed male attitude is THAT supposed to produce?
I felt a pang of regret for this boy, who was "shocked" by a row of traditional full-sized urinals...and couldn't believe that guys would actually go pee-pee "where other people could see them." What a sorrow. What a pity. What a travesty. THAT'S why paranoid-homophobic sites like Mike Sykes' are simply not funny.

For the life of me, I don't understand this guy's "rebuttal".

From: wenlock_edge
Eh! Those guys just need to take in more fluids.


Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:33:56 +1100
From: someone normal (you.are.a.loser@wanker.com)

you need help. I have never read anything before that the writer obviously thought was so funny, but is really a pathetic attempt at humor that let everyone know just how fucking stupid he is.


Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:45:14 -0500
From: Russell & Deanna Kruse (rkruse@socket.net)
Subject: You are a piss ant

I can't believe you spent valuable time on this page. It is not only gross but it is not even funny. Your mother obviously needs to limit your computer time and supervise you better.


Note: Ummm, okay I can't argue about me not being cool... but beetles??

Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:51:42 -0500 From: Price Woodward (woody@mvp.net)
Subject: beetles......!!! are cool!! not u

hello you evil little beetles who obviously have no time on your hands to create a stupid webpage like that. i'm not gonna say all those naughty bad words, like all the other people, but really, GET A BOX!!!!! or a life you loser morons! don's ask about the box thing. you are such ritherly beetles and need to get like some girlfriends or somethin like that to occupy your life (not that you have one right now) but anyways, just like whatever. bye you ritherly beetles who need boxes and lives!! ~from someone that is a ritherly beetle who luvs warrior beetles and bb (blanky beetle, but no, thats for goose)
and please don't send price anything cuz he did not write this


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:57:24 -0500 From: Brian Senseney (senseney@gtw.net)
Subject: piss on your shoe
Parts/Attachments:

I hope you are at an end urinal so I can stand next to you and piss on your shoe.


Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 21:19:41 EST
From: OneJarHead@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)
Parts/Attachments:

This has got to be THE DUMBEST fucking site I have had the displeasure of seeing. I got the address out a magazine and I swear I will never read that magazine again just because of that fact. Your site is the biggest waste of time and effort that I know of. Get a fucking life dude. Who the Hell are you? I worry about the children of today because of people like you!! What a dickhead. I feel stupid after looking at this shit. Your teachers in school really wasted their fucking time on you!


Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:56:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: garrett nelson (garrettnelson@elvis.com)
Subject: this is not hate mail

i don't know how you can say that pissing at a urinal while standing next to another man is something you should never do. i think that what makes us men is that we can fucking piss next to each other and not give a fucking shit. i think you must be a little bit timid or fearful of what others might think if per chance they were given the opportunity to glance your dick. get over it man. worse things could happen. you're not a fucking faggot if you piss next to someone else and they see it.

Note: How is this not hate mail?


Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:04:01 -0600
From: Tom_Carlson@nelaternes.com
Subject: Stalls without walls

I have experienced stalls without walls. When I was in the Army Reserve we had training several times a year at Fort McCoy, Wisconsin. We were billeted in barracks that dated to World War II. The bathrooms in the barracks had toilets in two rows of three facing the center of the room. You had little choice but to vacate your bowels while facing one or more of your buddies. If you are a man you would have no problem taking a dump in this situation. Do you also need a stall when you are in a communal shower?
I disagree with your statement that you should never pee in a trough. In many sporting arenas and stadiums that is all that is available. With the large consumption of beer many of the etiquette rules go out the window.
Much of your site sounds like it was written with someone who has a lot of issues. Maybe even by a women.

Tom Carlson
NELA Ternes Register Group

Note: This guy was clever enough to include his phone number in his signature! Why am I nice enough not to post it here?


From: InstantMotion@aol.com
Subject: Peeing
Date: October 18, 2003 6:36:55 AM PDT

What the fuck ruck a muck? Are you a man or pussy? The world is our urnal,it's our birth right to piss standing up, and make no excuses while doing it. The urnal is a beautiful thing. This crap you spew about urnal manners blows me away! You say don't pee in a trough urnal if others are there peeing, why not? It's a place to pee you dick head. You have mental issues that need addressing. Get help today.I'll be waiting for a reply from you, if you don't, I'll know why you are urnal shy.


From: ddevoe7430@charter.net
Subject: this is stupid
Date: November 4, 2006 1:17:21 PM PST

This is total bullshit. There's a reason there are three urinals in a bathroom. SO THREE PEOPLE CAN PEE AT THE SAME TIME, not so that you can use one as a divider. When peeing next to someone you have to trust your fellow man. Why would someone have any reason to sneak a peek. Just keep your eyes on the wall and don't ask questions, end of story.

Note: There are three urinals in a bathroom due to the powerful Urinal Lobby in Washington! Yes, those Fat Cats in Washington are up to their old tricks...


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